Wifebeater wrote:If Margarito beats pacquiao it will be the best thing to happen in boxing right now. If Pac Man beats him the question everyone will ask themselves will be what now? The answer will obviously be money May, but I dont see that fight happening anytime soon. So then who else for Pacs? Cotto(yeah new trainer and all but it will not be different than the first fight) Sugar Shane(wouldnt mind seing it but with the whole in house thing just dont see it) Marquez(yes thats the fight but again the whole keep it in the house thing dont see it happening as well). Now if margarito wins obviously there will be a rematch which will take the first half of the year depending what happens in the first fight, if pacs wins the second fight a third will happen taking the second part of the year. in all i think thats better for boxing as it will give us a year of drama and exitement, I would rather see pacs fight tony in a trilogy than rather see him fight tune ups or tomato cans, however if top rank and golden boy can make out than better fights will happen as in pacs vs marquez/ pacs vs sugar
I'd like to see Manny vs. Martinez or Williams at JMW
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1.4 million was also the accepted number for May's big fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Shane Mosley. Until now, Mayweather has generally outperformed Pacquiao on pay-per-view, both against common opponents, and in fights that came around the same time period. Mayweather doubled Pacquiao earlier this year, but in the final third of 2009, Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto did 1.2 million compared to the Mayweather-Marquez fight, which did one million. In December 2008, Pacquiao's fight with Oscar de la Hoya, the former undisputed king of PPV, did 1.25 million. When Mayweather fought Oscar in 2007, they set an all-time record with 2.44 million sold. Mayweather also did better numbers against Ricky Hatton than did Pacquiao.
Also if the numbers hold, it may actually be a setback to the already-limited possibility of making a Pacquiao-Mayweather/Mayweather-Pacquiao fight in 2011. Money has been an issue among any number of things, and if Pacquiao equaled Mayweather's biggest non-Oscar PPV with this one, there's not a single solitary shot in hell that Pacquiao and Top Rank will settle for anything less than 50-50. The fight's already a longshot, and if Mayweather chooses to be the slightest bit greedy, you could count it out for sure now.
The other piece of good news is that fans saw an entertaining main event fight this time, as well as a more enjoyable undercard than usual, save for the stinker performance from ultra-talented, ultra-safe super bantamweight Guillermo Rigondeaux against Ricardo Cordoba. The Mike Jones-Jesus Soto Karass scrap was pretty good, and the opener between Brandon Rios and Omri Lowther had as much action as you could hope for two guys who came in on short notice.
The numbers could be a bit below this, or right around this area, or even possibly well below this. You know how these things go sometimes if you've paid attention to figures over the years, which mostly come out only if everyone is super happy, and sometimes Bob Arum can be tough to please (see: Hatton-Pacquiao). If there's an official HBO release, you'll know the champagne is flowing at Top Rank's offices."
also fuck thos who think boxing is dead it never will die cuz ppl want to see fights not laying on top of each other aka john fitch.
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Pacquiao matched former heavyweight champ Mike Tyson as the only fighter in pay-per-view history to generate at least one million buys for a fight in three consecutive years. HBO announced Tuesday that Pacquiao's one-sided battering of Antonio Margarito on Nov. 13 at Cowboys Stadium to win a vacant junior middleweight title -- his record-extending eighth -- generated at least 1.15 million buys and $64 million domestic pay-per-view revenue.
The number HBO reported is only an initial figure, with the total likely to rise once the buys are fully accounted for.
"We're thrilled with the PPV performance," said HBO senior vice president Mark Taffet, who runs HBO PPV. "With the breadth of interest from sports, entertainment and news media following Manny and the fight, boxing has tremendous momentum as we finish 2010 and head into a very exciting 2011."
Pacquiao's lopsided eighth-round destruction of Oscar De La Hoya, which sent him into retirement, generated 1.25 million buys in 2008. Pacquiao's 12th-round knockout of Miguel Cotto in 2009 sold 1.2 million units.
"This is the third consecutive year that a Manny Pacquiao megafight has exceeded 1 million buys and he has generated 5.1 million buys over his last five fights -- true measures of his PPV superstar status," Taffet said.
Pacquiao's other 2010 fight, a lopsided decision against Joshua Clottey at Cowboys Stadium in March, generated 700,000 buys. That fight was made on short notice and Clottey was a virtual unknown.
"I think the fight with Margarito did very, very well and we are constantly trying to figure out how to better our performances," Top Rank promoter Bob Arum said. "Considering where we were when we announced the fight, nobody would have believed we would have done this. They said Margarito was disgraced and people talked about boycotting it."
Arum was referring to the scandal that engulfed Margarito, who had been caught in January 2009 of trying to enter his fight against Shane Mosley with loaded hand wraps. He was caught, had his license revoked by California regulators and became a pariah before Texas granted him a license to fight Pacquiao.
After Tyson was released from prison, he also did huge numbers for fights from 1995 to 1997. The total for Pacquiao-Margarito is the second-biggest pay-per-view of the year. Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s May win against Shane Mosley generated 1.4 million.
Of course, the biggest fight in boxing would match Pacquiao, the pound-for-pound king, with Mayweather. However, two rounds of negotiations have failed. When Mayweather rejected an offer to fight him on Nov. 13, Margarito was tapped instead.
Arum is proud of the fact that Pacquiao, who is from the Philippines, has become a major star in the United States.
"That's one of the achievements we can take credit for -- taking a non-American and crossing him over," Arum said. "Can we do more? Yeah. Nobody would have dreamed that you could take a fighter from the Philippines and make him into an iconic American star and we've been able to do that. Most of the credit goes to Pacquiao, but we've been able to do that and now we have to improve on what we've done.
"It's a work in progress. It's one thing to do big numbers fighting Oscar De La Hoya, who always did big numbers. It's another doing them on his own, which he is now apparently able to do. One of the ways to put it into the stratosphere is to make the Mayweather fight, but that is out of my control.
"I hope that is the next fight."
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