The ufc , the newb world order and the demise of Mma

[Longtime fan]

Throwback thread , but worthy of the re-post:


   In an attempt to compare and contrast the UFC and the new world order (illuminatti, bilderberg group, council on foreign relations, the federal reserve, the tri-lateral commision , etc.), I came upon many similarities between the two and begun to make comparisons that I would like to share and point out. First of all, they both define the very meaning of capitalism. What is capitalism? It's when you put profit before people (money over life). Its when the walmarts eat up the mom and pop store and force them out of buisiness . It's when monopolies use cut-throat methods and shady buisness practices to corner the market by completely decapitating the competition using whatever means necessary whether that be through corruption and cohersion and/or media manipulation , fear , and bribery just to name a few. Just as it is wrong for politicians, influential large buisness owners , judges and law makers get together in secret meetings which are illegal according to the law (bilderberg meetings), it is just as bad that Marc Ratner went from being on the Nevada state athletic comission to becoming the vice 
president of regulatory affairs for the ufc . Lorenzo Fertitta joined the N.S.A.C also ,  Coincidence? One would have to be very naive not to assume that some sort of influential and dirty economical power plays havn't been executed since these characters have been on board with the agenda to become the sole monopoly of their version of Mma which is nothing more than sports entertainment and not a true sport as they would like to call it.

Let's take a look at just one example for now , check out just ONE of the power plays they conducted:

 

*During a MSNBC national tv program called "Ultimate fighting : dollars" , the following was suspiciously edited out from an interview with ex-ufc owner Bob Meyrowitz :

 "We went out there (to Nevada) , it looked like we had the votes , we were told we did , and about midnight i got a phone call that one of the commissioners had changed his mind...and it turns out that commissioner was Lorenzo Fertitta . He had changed his mind and that we would'nt be able to get approval"
-Bob Meyrowitz

Interesting chain of events , a commissioner changes his mind to later become owner of the SAME ORGANIZATION HE DENIED EVENTS TO. 

  
   The ufc and specially their puppet mouthpiece Dana , use the same 
strong-arm tactics to achieve what they want. 
They are similar to modern day politicians and mafia's in the sense that they WILL character assasinate fighters who might not want to sign a 
contract which is primarily made to endebt you virtually forever and surrender your 
natural resources (freedom and exclusivity) just like a third world country and similar to the way 
that the CIA and the U.S government literally assasinated many South American presidents during operation Condor in the 70's like Ecuadorian president Jaime Roldos in an airplane crash (boy do they love this method, the same used to kill JFK's brother) , Chilean president Salvador Allende (with a military coup that was funded secretly by President Nixon and Henry Kissinger, and recently Saddam Hussein). When they don't get what they want, first they throw money at the problem, if the economic hitman approach doesn't work, then you send in the jackal (Dana White, and if he fails, Lorenzo Fertitta) whom then proceed to change public 
perception and opinion against the subject and try have him comply that way , through public pressure and taking media jabs tondevalue the subject's worth . Finally when 
that doesn't work then they take you out with whatever dirty means neccesary like pulling some strings in order to tank other promotions like counterprogramming spike tv attacks , and publicly degrading  legit and skilled fighters (why is it that Josh Barnett was the only fighter to get randomly drug tested three weeks before the fight on what turned out to be afflictions final card when this is not standard practice and has never been done in the ufc?) , thus forcefully decreasing their perceived market value as a fighter or legitimacy as a viable organization or fight promotion. 
   Some would argue that these are good buisness practices but those replies 
usually come from American fans who can't always see the reality 
because they are  living inside the bubble and are programmed to be sheep and 
not question why exactly is it that Dana White can get away with lying ,misleading the public , and insulting others (reporters, websites , organizations and fighters) without reprimand while others can't? (and im American born and bred by the way so this isn't a foreigner taking a jab at America, it's an American patriot longing for a return to the practice of constitutional law but now instead we have the patriot act which was brought in after this country suffered an inside job/false flag operation committed by this very same government! ).
  
 An example is the Fedor not signing with the UFC situation . The UFC in the past leaked out inflated numbers through one of their "friends" in the media namely "the Carmicheal Dave show", claiming that Fedor was offered $5 million per fight for 6 fights. One little leak and it was suddenly regarded as the undeniable truth. 
  In this internet age it is really easy to leak out inflated figures of a deal in discussion in an effort to consequentially put pressure on the other party to sign , or else face the scrutiny of the judgmental sheep or zuffa zombies as some like to call them.  
  The Russians have said it was never about the money as much as it was about this complicated UFC contract that on top of owning your likeness' and being able to cut you at any given time for absolutely no reason (comparable to how a king in a monarchy would be able to execute anyone on a whim) , also renews itself indefinitely ,  its called the UFC's Champions clause. 

  In 2007 the UFC offered Fedor a guarantee of 1.5 million per fight , and Fedor's side was understandibly happy with that figure. It wasn't money that held up the deal , it was what i just mentioned earlier. The champions clause renews itself one year at a time , and does so indefinitely until the champion loses the title. If it expired after 12 months , Randy Couture would have been a free agent in August 2008 . Rob Maysey who has read and written about more UFC contracts than anyone else , confirms this. 
  
  The UFC arrogantly dropped the ball on these negotiations as Fedor went on to sign as part owner of M1 . 

 Assuming he had signed with the UFC , If Fedor ever wanted to fight the champions clause in court as Randy Couture did for a year before giving up , there would be a solid 18-24 months from the time that the lawsuit was filed to the trial date , and even then there is no guarantee that he would win in a nevada court system with judges like the Xyience/Bergeron case judge who got elected with campaign money from the ufc owners Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta (this is not a secret , a rumor , or a conspiracy theory , as the judge publicly thanked the fertittas on his website for their monetary contributions to his election campaign.)

 Since the post-tuf UFC boom there seems to be alot of media types who unfortunately are acting more like political activists than actual writers and reporters.  On various message boards and web sites (and a couple of radio outlets) we've been lead to believe "rumoured" numbers like Fedor being offered $30 million dollars by the UFC , and yet there arent any online fingerprints from UFC's behalf for it . Its the David Axelrod graduate school of marketing here, but it also helps to have willing participants (sheep) wanting to promote your agenda for you , no matter how corrupt. Have you noticed how the campaign of misinformation online is working to discredit fedor and try to paint him in a bad and negative light ? They've succeeded as well as they have hurt Fedor directly for the sum of $1M from the cockblocking of the tapout sponsorship deal. M-1 is currently suing Zuffa in court due to this.
  
 The idea that websites and blogs would participate in an explicit active role of helping to spread misinformation in regards to what the ufc is allegedly offering Fedor's camp is silly. Also , if the mma websites say anything negative about Dana or the ufc, he has ammunition to take away or not give them media credentials for live events , or at the very least blast them publicly in the media.
  
 One of the media tactics the UFC has used in the past to influence these pathetic sheep with great success is , through their own media outlets or various other media members or partners , is that they will blow up a derrogotory news item against competition and inflate it so strongly that by the time there's evidence to contradict the initial claim , its already too late because the majority of people have already bought into what the ufc has said. Propaganda wars 101. The ufc has managed to use the speed of the internet to craft a message that they want people to absorb and attain brand dominance. You see this in their ppv buyrate announcements (sometimes inflated) , and the most popular zuffa myth : that UFC reinvented the rules and cleaned up MMA . The majority of the media ends up just rehashing what the ufc has said , like parrots. 
  
 Its one thing to be an activist if you are trying to root out , lets say , steroids or the mafia from the mma scene. Its another thing to become an activist and to huff and puff when a fighter like Fedor doesnt sign with your favorite fight promotion and go out on a limb to bash anything not zuffa.

   Dana White has reached Obama status on  boards all over the internet and it really surprises me how young people can become so overly infatuated with him . It must be the cult of personality. I bet these are the same kids that went to vote when they were told to. For those of you who dont know , Elections are rigged digitally , and the proof is in the coverup and the unwillingness to make public the written code and algorythms  that were used to fomulate the numbers and determine a winner. Jeb Bush , Florida state , anybody? This is the reason why many states are pushing for a reform and to go back to pen and paper ballots which is more transparent and more tamper-proof.
   Before Obama got elected by the sheep of America, he won the 
hearts an minds by lying and promising stuff he still hasn't come 
through on, for example bringing the troops home.Its the Same as Dana 
when he and Lorenzo promised to keep pride going after buying it only to later admit they 
bought their competitor out to eliminate the threat and had no real intentions
of ever making that super bowl of mma that they promised.there is a video out there where Dana White admits to buying pride to kill it and it all started with the crocop signing and planted rumors. There is also an 
interview on this thread [URL="http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:f06PBzcqTK8J:www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/dana-white-interview-2001-a-431660/+Dana+white+interview+2001&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari"]http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:f06PBzcqTK8J:www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/dana-white-interview-2001-a-431660/+Dana+white+interview+2001&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari[/URL]
 which was done back when young Dana and zuffa just bought the ufc in 2001 and he said many things and promised things that never came true , or he has done a complete 180 degree turn on. He doesnt want to co promote with any other org. now , but here he says different : 
"we don't have a problem with co-promoting" Talk about flip flopping. Is this the same Dana White ? has he changed or was he always like this? 

 Now , a year and change later , Obama's approval rating is down almost half in the 
public's opinion (from being in the 90%'s all the way down to the 60's), and the people just dont trust him as much anymore . This same phenomenon is starting to occur with Dana but at a slower pace of awakening.
Historically never has this happened before where the poll for presidential 
popularity rating had gone down so abruptly after being elected into office 
since Nixon. There are many more lies that i can post but would take me too long to make a point that is so fairly obvious and even his sheep have to admit..... he lies. Dana White lies and 
never gets reprimanded for it , Not only does he lie and try to steer public 
opinion against fighters, he also curses and insults reporters and 
fighter managers and promotors themselves. The only reporters and mma afficionados that consistently ask the 
relevant questions and have the balls to confront him are/were: bloodstaine lane , Josh Gross, Loreta Hunt, Ariel Helwani , Jerry Millen  and maybe one 
or two more. The others follow the same pattern of brown nosing questions
typical of mainstream media owned by Texas-based Clear Channel 
communications like Fox which is a known subsidiary of Bush inc. In other words ,  
the message transmitted is unfortunately manipulated , controlled and spoonfed to these 
ignorant fans who buy it up time after time , lie after lie , not considering at 
all the times Dana has been caught lying before. His credibilty should be zero 
with the public by now and he should be treated as such and not admired for his awful self serving media spinning abilities or his buisness savy which is really just thuggish negotiation. 
  
   He doesnt apreciate MMA as a beautifull form of combative art , he thinks of 
mma as ufc, and ufc is this hoe that he is pimping and milking for all its 
worth while its popular. He is robbing the culture out of fighting and making it mainstream which only degrades it when you have ignorant fans that write JUST BLEED on their foreheads and boo all night long during beautiful jiu jitsu transitions and ground work. This is the dumming down of a sophisticated honorable sport and tradition. Should we allow them to get away with this?
 
   In Japan , when Pride was around , watching it , it kind of made me imagine the feudal times, there was no questioning the cultural feel to the events. Watching the introduction ceremony was similar to how the combatants must of been introduced into the arena's back in the days of the Roman empire. What type of culture or value are you instilling into your viewers with new metal music intro's ? The packaging and posturing of the ufc has gotten so old that i am relieved that Strikeforce and Dream are there to become the new pride of sorts in that they give us the real fans , the best possible matchups and not one fight and the rest unproven uninteresting names that lack skills or are too one  dimensional to be fighting in the big stage.
   
   The educated fans should admire Skills over fake personalities that need to trash talk to build themselves up like Chael Sonnen and Brock Lesnar.They should admire fast thinking fighters like PRIDE era Wanderlei Silva and Fedor Emelianenko who barraged their oponents and overloaded their senses with skillful strikes and subs , not simply controlling like a wrestler and laying on you like a blanket. It was an awesome notion that under those rules , a fighter who scored a knockdown on his opponent , was immediately awarded with a small window of opportunity to go in for the kill with a stomp or soccer kick to the head, instead of the typical knee on belly/rapechoke hammerfists that can be effective but waste time and energy , allowing the opponent the milliseconds it sometimes takes to recover. The smaller rings meant more action because you could cut corners and more striking was encouraged when you trapped someone. The 10 minute first round was the equalizer to this striking advantage , by allowing more time for the submission specialist to execute his gameplan , while the fighters weren't as sweaty yet. Knees to the head of a grounded opponent actually could end fights and consequentially encouraged action while forcing the fighter on the bottom to attempt to better his position.The judges actually scored the fights the right way for the most part. (we have alot more bullshit decisions here in the states. Almost one every two months). The raising of the price (twice!) of the ppv's ...etc.
  
  I can go on for days about how and why we got jipped as fans when the ufc and the casual zuffa zombies took over . We went from having a record 13 fights on a card once in Pride (6-8 on average)to now only having 4-5 fights and only one or two fights with big name quality fighters. Amazing how us fans got jipped ,yet hardly anyone complained. Amazing how everyone flocked from supporting Affliction when the Barnett scandal broke out. Even more shocked to see Fedor's desserters. This is what the MK Ultra programming has done to this dumbed down mainstream viewer demographic? Are they stupid consumers in real life as well ? you know , the impulse-shopping ,x games watching, playstation type fanboy, myspace generation young immature spoiled rotten by convenience ,dumb and uneducated kids that are only slightly better than pro-wrestling viewers? (haha no offense, i used to be a fan but at one point you have to move on) In the end , shouldn't they be insulted as well by the way we all were jipped? Maybe they don't have the priviledge of having that viewpoint because they werent around when all this was around. They came after TUF or Brock. I really dont understand them ... I mean , after all , this screwjob is so obvious that it is insulting to one's intelligence to see the defenders of the UFC whenever we get a really bad ufc card . 
  
 In closing , I would like to say that Im all about enlightening people and appreciate anyone that can enlighten me.Whether it be teaching me a submission , or about life.  I only seek the truth and wish to spread it . Hopefully i have opened some minds tonight. 
  
Oh yea, FUCK SHERDOG AND FUCK YOUR LIFE!


Note: Zach Arnold and Ivan's blog unknowingly contributed to this piece, for that i am greatfull and respectfull.

[cobra]

No mention of Pride being corrupt and tied to the Yakuza? All MMA orgs are ran by shady people, no need to single out one entity when they're all guilty.

[Fletch]

Intriguing read. I remember your threads on Axisdog. Welcome to the Allies, brother

[Longtime fan]

No mention of Pride being corrupt and tied to the Yakuza? All MMA orgs are ran by shady people, no need to single out one entity when they're all guilty.

I imagine some if not most organizations are involved in some way or another with something shady , but when dealing with a problem like this , I am of the belief that the problem should be looked at and solved from the root on up , and the ufc currently is the major org. In the world, the one that brings in more revenue and influences more people so by starting at the root , you can eliminate the tumor before it becomes a malignant one that leads to cancer.




And @fletch1

Thanks man , I remember you from years ago in sherdog, definitely one of the few good posters I wouldn't cringe when reading his posts. Glad to see thus community here , I'll be tryin to bring more on board. We need to fight these evil tyrants before they are the last ones standing.

[Longtime fan]

I just posted "the ufc, the fertittas and the corrupt athletic comissions" in case y'all want to read it...

[giusti825]

Speaking of the connection between the UFC and Athletic Commissioners, there was one story that caught my attention that I find a little to convenient to be a coincidence.

Back when Josh Barnett got busted in Affliction, noone really followed up on that test being the first ever of its kind. A test to get re-licensed as opposed to a test before the fight. Once I heard it was the first time ever that the CSAC had conducted this type of test, I knew something fishy was up. Fertita and the CSAC commissioner at the time were friends from when they used to both be part of regulating bodies.

I believe that Zuffa directly contributed to the fall of Affliction by colluding with the CSAC for the passage of this new standard for licensing, not that there would ever be a way to prove it.

[Hooligan]

Speaking of the connection between the UFC and Athletic Commissioners, there was one story that caught my attention that I find a little to convenient to be a coincidence.

Back when Josh Barnett got busted in Affliction, noone really followed up on that test being the first ever of its kind. A test to get re-licensed as opposed to a test before the fight. Once I heard it was the first time ever that the CSAC had conducted this type of test, I knew something fishy was up. Fertita and the CSAC commissioner at the time were friends from when they used to both be part of regulating bodies.

I believe that Zuffa directly contributed to the fall of Affliction by colluding with the CSAC for the passage of this new standard for licensing, not that there would ever be a way to prove it.

Agreed. I'd heard about that too. I spent the next week looking for articles about that but nothing. I'm not saying Josh never used before & a fight against Fedor would be the time to juice, if you were a juicer, but the timing of that test seemed way too odd. It was the timing of the test, weeks ahead of the fight, that seemed strange. I instantly thought somebody in Josh's circle must have dropped a dime to the Zuffa office's, who then contacted the commission.

[Stu3ufc]

Speaking of the connection between the UFC and Athletic Commissioners, there was one story that caught my attention that I find a little to convenient to be a coincidence.

Back when Josh Barnett got busted in Affliction, noone really followed up on that test being the first ever of its kind. A test to get re-licensed as opposed to a test before the fight. Once I heard it was the first time ever that the CSAC had conducted this type of test, I knew something fishy was up. Fertita and the CSAC commissioner at the time were friends from when they used to both be part of regulating bodies.

I believe that Zuffa directly contributed to the fall of Affliction by colluding with the CSAC for the passage of this new standard for licensing, not that there would ever be a way to prove it.

i believe it runs deeper than that

funny how Afflcition ran back to UFC and joined forces with them - then UFC bought all the contracts and video footage

[Hooligan]

Zuffa has deep pockets obviously. Those they can't buy they push around. They bully sponsors, trainers, gym owners, managers, media outlets, & fighters with threats. They have shady business dealings thru Xyience that I can't even understand the entire scenario. They've not only built a huge successful company they've developed an entire community dependent on revenue from mma. They have a lot of power & influence because of that & to top it off, DW is more emotional that my p.m.s.'ing ex wife.

Almost everyone comes back to the UFC that can. Randy, Affliction, Tito, Pride vets, etc...

So many people rely on Zuffa ties for income that I'm not surprised we don't see much criticism. Its going to have to be us, the fans, the ones pumping money into this machine, not livivng off of it, who are going to have to step up & demand changes.

This is why I like Bloodstain so much. He has no fear of telling it how it is. Why should he? They can't take money out of his pocket.

Ours either....

[Longtime fan]

Yea Lane came up with an excelent idea also with the teamtakeover crew cause it gives hardcores a voice.

[rcv604]

Very very very very very good read. In my opinion there is corruption everywhere in life. There's a ton of sheep and zombies out there in the world who follow and love things blindly without thinking about why they love something. There's tons of douchebags out there, band wagoners, who'll love something just for the sake of being "cool". I've always taken pride in daring to be different, to be the one use my brain, and judge the real from fake for myself.

I love Martial Arts, not just MMA but the sports, culture, and the lifestyle as a whole. I've always had found that "Budo" spirit to be fascinating and the level of respect and athleticism from every fighter who steps into a ring or cage. It is ignorant for people out there to believe that the UFC is all that sport of MMA has to offer, but we have to remember what kind of world we live in.

People LOVE the UFC the same reason people loved Pokemon back in the day when we were kids. The same reason people bought Pogs, the same reason people these days love wearing those douchebag, asshole, Tap Out shirts, and man purses....It's because people want to be "cool".

I'm proud to say I am my own man and I'm proud to say I think outside the box and think differently like many of you on this forum.

[rcv604]

This is why I like Bloodstain so much. He has no fear of telling it how it is. Why should he? They can't take money out of his pocket.

Ours either....

Amen.

[Longtime fan]

Pardon, just a shameless but friendly ttt for all the 20 some odd new members that have registered recently in these past few days.

[Fletch]

Yea Lane came up with an excelent idea also with the teamtakeover crew cause it gives hardcores a voice.

This forum was my idea..... jus' sayin

[Longtime fan]

Yea Lane came up with an excelent idea also with the teamtakeover crew cause it gives hardcores a voice.

This forum was my idea..... jus' sayin

Yup, that's something I came to find out afterwards.


Props tho

[Fletch]

It's all good man. It was Lane and his boys in NYC I got in touch with anyways, to suggest it. Was thinking about my own breakaway forum, then I watched one of Lane's vids and a little lightbulb flashed over my dome.... "innocently" made a few comments, which led to some shared PM's, which led to my making a throwaway comment about a forum....

Which led to.....

teamtakeover.forum-express.com



tWo 4 lyf

[Longtime fan]

This forum is the answer, future, and the revolution.

[Longtime fan]

Pumps in a bump- mc hammer

[Longtime fan]

Just thought I'd bump this seeing how it's still relevant now almost two years after I originally posted it on shitdawg

[juggalo]

zuffa is very similar to the illuminati