No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

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No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by nhbnews on Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:09 pm

On this audio edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman speaks with Team Takeover's Bloodstain Lane (http://twitter.com/bloodstainlane) about the controversy in the September 17 Floyd Mayweather-Victor Ortiz fight.

Late in the fourth round of that fight, which was telecast on HBO pay-per-view, referee Joe Cortez stopped the action to deduct a point from Ortiz for a blatant head butt. When they restarted, Ortiz chose to hug Mayweather and apologize. Mayweather hugged him back, but then Ortiz stood with his hands down. Mayweather next quickly landed a left hook and a solid right which dropped Ortiz. Referee Cortez, who was looking outside the ring and talking with someone when Mayweather threw that first punch, then counted during the knockdown, and subsequently counted Ortiz out, thus indicating that the punches were indeed legal. Mayweather was declared the winner by knockout at 2:59 of round four.

Many people, however, believe that Mayweather should not have attacked Ortiz, even though the fight had resumed. In any case, this has become one of the biggest controversies in the history of boxing.

We discussed this controversy with Bloodstain Lane and replied to the critics of Mayweather. The old boxing maxim of "Protect yourself at all times" was invoked. We also discussed the comments of Larry Merchant of HBO towards Mayweather after the fight, and that the HBO announcers did not criticize the referee. And we commented on the reluctance of the Manny Pacquiao camp to comply with Mayweather's stipulation that such a fight would only take place if Pacquiao agreed to undergo random and unannounced blood and urine drug testing. In addition, we commented on what appeared to be an early stoppage in the Canelo Alvarez-Alfonso Gomez fight on that telecast. In that bout, Alvarez was declared the winner by knockout in the sixth round, even though Gomez, while hurt, had not been knocked down in that round.

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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by sambokid on Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:47 pm

Listening now

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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by Kid Gavilan on Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:02 am

Protect yourselves at all times.

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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by Фёдор Емельяненко on Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:07 am

yes, even when teh fight's stopped by the ref, or inbetween rounds , or even after outside of teh arena cuz u never know with these negroz , they be ambushing u for the belt , you have to protect yourselves at all times kids.

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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by Kid Gavilan on Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:41 am

zuKKKa zealots are a racist bunch.

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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by Фёдор Емельяненко on Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:50 am

don't get me wrong , even though he was still inbetween the fighters while looking away cortez did proceed to re-activate the fight with his hands , so the win is legal.

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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by nodogoshi on Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:22 pm

This might seem condescending, but do you think this is what people tune into to NHBnews for?

I could just go on any dedicated boxing forum and read many of the same sorts of opinions from Mayweather fans.

And Bloodstain Lane attacking people who's opinions may reasonably differ isn't constructive either. It comes off as a continuation of twitter and message board wars, as opposed to real analysis, to me.

But, it doesn't matter, and it's your show. The position on the event itself is fair enough.

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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by nhbnews on Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:08 pm

No Holds Barred covers all the combat sports, including boxing. This analysis was done very shortly after the fight. Few people are ripping Merchant and HBO. We also ripped the commissions and the refs in he Mayweather-Ortiz and Canelo-Gomez fights. And not enough people are demanding that real drug testing take place in combat sports. We covered all of that, less than an hour after the fight had ended. I really haven't seen a boxing forum with anything close to that level of discussion and analysis. Most of those are name-calling and trolling rants.

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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by nodogoshi on Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:24 pm

nhbnews wrote:No Holds Barred covers all the combat sports, including boxing. This analysis was done very shortly after the fight. Few people are ripping Merchant and HBO. We also ripped the commissions and the refs in he Mayweather-Ortiz and Canelo-Gomez fights. And not enough people are demanding that real drug testing take place in combat sports. We covered all of that, less than an hour after the fight had ended. I really haven't seen a boxing forum with anything close to that level of discussion and analysis. Most of those are name-calling and trolling rants.

Fair enough. I always value the show.

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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by blueyedsamurai on Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:50 pm

didnt lane say nate was cheap for attacking Rousimar Palhares when he was looking at the ref? at least he admits he is bias to his fav fighters

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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by Kid Gavilan on Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:46 am

nhbnews wrote:"I really haven't seen a boxing forum with anything close to that level of discussion and analysis. Most of those are name-calling and trolling rants".

lol! I guess you were on Shertard?
The zuKKKa-fags are the ones attacking Mayweather.
And Obama is a failed President, not because he's bi-racial, because he's inept.
Good breakdown Eddie.


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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by CanadianAssault on Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:02 am

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Referee Joe Cortez has received a lot of criticism from the fans and the boxing media, with nearly all of his critics being upset over the veteran referee's performance in last Saturday's controversial fight between Floyd Mayweather and Victor Ortiz at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. During the fourth round, Ortiz apologized to Mayweather for intentionally using his head. He hugged Mayweather when the foul was committed, and then Cortez took a point away from Ortiz.

After the point was taken away, Ortiz hugged Mayweathr again, but after Ortiz pulled away from their embrace - Mayweather landed two solid punches to knock Ortiz out. Afterwards, Ortiz made allegations that Cortez never told them to continue fighting, and that's why his hands were at his side when the punches from Mayweather connected.

A replay showed Cortez instructing the timekeeper to resume the clock, but there was never a point where he looked at both boxers and instructed them to continue fighting. Cortez denies this and says the inexperience of Ortiz cost him the fight.

"I had already ordered them to continue fighting and the clock was running, but Ortiz wanted to apologize again and he was off guard. Mayweather, who is more experienced, he took advantage, but did nothing illegal. Nowhere is there a rule that says the boxer has to apologize and hug the other fighter and do it at least two or three times. If you get ordered to fight and the clock is running, you have to fight. Ortiz's inexperience cost him the fight," Cortez told Les Jimenez.


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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by nhbnews on Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:44 am

I hope you didn't get a virus from that fucking site. I did a couple of years ago and haven't been back since. I think Gerbasi, ufc.com editor, writes there, too.

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Post by CanadianAssault on Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:10 am

from boxing seance!??!?!

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Re: No Holds Barred: Bloodstain Lane on Mayweather-Ortiz Controversy

Post by Kid Gavilan on Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:24 am

Yes, you need Norton 360 before you go on that site.

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